I’ve made non creatives listen to this podcast

And they still liked it. It’s hard not to get pumped up when Andy starts talking real effective strategies and then mixes them with great analogies. I’ve used a lot of what he’s taught on the show and am starting my dream job next week (kill the arrival tho, we have much to learn still).

Ugh, but then the interviews, Andy is able to pull some great wisdom from the creatives/entrepreneurs he has on the show. I have relistened to quite a few to get all the “nuggets” of wisdom.